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Join Pastor Jon Ciccarelli and his wife Lisa (LMFT) as they have conversations with each other on the topic of theology and therapy. This first season of the podcast will be on the topic of mental health. They will be inviting some great guests to join them in this vitally important conversation on the topic of mental health.

In this episode talk about grief and other areas of theology and therapy with our guest is Dr. Saul Barcelo, Director of The Center for Whole Person Care at Loma Linda University School of Religion. Dr. Barcelo also bring pastoral and chaplaincy experience to the conversation.

Please feel free to reach out to Jon and Lisa at jon@crosswalkvillage.com with any questions, comments, and suggestions you may have. Thanks for joining Jon & Lisa for this inaugural season of the podcast and if you enjoy the podcast please share it with those you think will enjoy it.