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Lee Baker's Questions for Mormons

1-Minute Video Clips from "Bishop" Lee's Mainstream Mormonism Series

Would You Like Support Leaving Mormonism?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Would you like help and support leaving Mormonism? It is not uncommon for an LDS person to feel alone in the process of reconsidering his or her faith. As former members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who served on had served honorably in many leadership positions at the Branch, Ward and Stake level, we understand that even the act of asking questions can raise havoc in nearly every area of an LDS person's life. So we are here to help you. If you have a question about the Mormon Church that you cannot share with your friends or family, we would like you to consider former Mormon Bishop Lee Baker and his wife Kathy Baker as a confidential source. Please feel free to contact Lee and Kathy with your questions at LeeBaker@4mormon.org.

Can you Leave Mormonism without Losing your Faith in Jesus Christ

Ex-Mormon Bishop Lee and Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: When you see evidence that Joseph Smith and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints isn't what it claims to be, can you leave Mormonism without losing your faith in Jesus Christ? For many Latter-day Saints, their faith in Joseph Smith and latter-day restoration goes hand-in-hand with their faith in Jesus Christ. When their trust in the claims of Mormonism are broken by the sheer evidence of fraud in the Mormon story, they often struggle in sorting out spiritual truth from error. Many struggle with atheism and agnosticism, no knowing where to go or who to believe. Is the Bible true, can we trust the claims of Christ? These are often the questions of former Mormons. Our desire is to help you leave Mormonism without losing your faith in Jesus Christ by examining the differences between the false doctrines and teaching of Mormonism compared the true teaching of Christ as found in the Bible alone. You can leave the LDS Church without losing your faith in Jesus Christ! This video is taken from former Mormon Bishop Lee Baker's Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, "Surviving Mormonism." You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

What is the Difference between Mormon Worship and Christian Worship?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: What are the differences between your church services and bible-based Christian services? The first thing a Mormon will notice when he or she is considering the differences between the services found in the LDS Church and bible-based Christian services is the worship music. Emphasis on the truth of the Bible, both in music and in preaching is a stark contrast to Mormonism which criticizes the preservation of the Holy Bible and undermines the authority of the Bible when promoting latter-day prophets and revelation. This video is taken from former Mormon Bishop Lee Baker's Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, "Christian Worship vs. Mormon Monotony." You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Where did the Book of Abraham Come from?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Where did the Book of Abraham come from if "none" of the characters in Joseph Smith's papyrus fragments and "neither the rules nor the translations given by Joseph Smith" in his Egyptian "grammar" book correspond to legitimate "translations" of Egyptian text today? Did Joseph Smith simply make the whole Book of Abraham up? What would Mormonism look like today if the non-christian beliefs found in the Book of Abraham were removed from the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Just as Egyptologist admit that "none of the characters" in the the papyrus fragments match the translation given by Joseph Smith when he created the Book of Abraham, they have likewise examined the "grammar" that Joseph Smith created for the Egyptian language; only to discover that "Neither the rules nor the translations in the grammar book correspond to those recognized by Egyptologists today." (Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham at lds.org). This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, “Mormonism Without the Book of Abraham” You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Did Joseph Smith Translate the Characters on the Book of Abraham Papyrus?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Did Joseph Smith Translate the Characters in the Book of Abraham Papyrus? The Book of Abraham is considered one of the standard works (scriptures) of the Mormon Church. Alleged by Joseph Smith to be a "translation" of the writings of the Hebrew patriarch Abraham recorded on the Egyptian papyrus fragments sold to Joseph Smith by Michael Chandler in 1835, this book of Mormon scripture serves as the foundation for many of the unique, non-Christian beliefs of Mormonism, such as preexistence and the idea that Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers. Yet, the Mormon Church now admits: "None of the characters on the papyrus fragments mentioned Abraham’s name or any of the events recorded in the book of Abraham. Mormon and non-Mormon Egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do not match the translation given in the book of Abraham... . "Scholars have identified the papyrus fragments as parts of standard funerary texts that were deposited with mummified bodies. These fragments date to between the third century B.C.E. and the first century C.E., long after Abraham lived." With this admission that Joseph Smith didn't actually translate the characters of the vignettes displayed in the Book of Abraham, credibility as to Joseph Smith's translation capabilities come into serious question. Is God responsible for Joseph Smith's failure to accurately translate these Egyptian documents, or was Joseph Smith making everything up? If he couldn't accurately "translate" a document that scholars are able to examine today, how can we trust his "translations" of the gold plates of the Book of Mormon, especially as those plates are not available for any scholar to be able to examine and verify today? This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, “The Book of Abraham, A Uniquely Profane Doctrine” You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Was the Apostle Paul Saved by Grace or By Works?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: "Was the Apostle Paul Saved by Grace or By Works?" The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that a person must perform a number of different works in order to attain to the highest level of heaven. It is claimed that some of the most important works a person must do in order to enter the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom are: Obtaining Temple Endowments, Males being ordained to the Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods, performing baptism for the dead and being married for time and eternity. Yet, the Apostle Paul performed none of these tasks. Instead he taught: TITUS 3:5: "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;" EPHESIANS 2:8-9: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." ROMANS 11:6: "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, “Biblical Grace vs Mormon Grace” You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Does the Book of Mormon Teach the Bible was Preserved in Purity?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: "Does the Book of Mormon Teach that the Bible was Preserved in Purity?" The foundation of the Mormon claim to "restore" Christianity is based up the assertion that the Biblical text was corrupted through careless translators. Thus Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, claimed that the unique doctrines he was teaching, were simply "restored" truths that he received through the development of a brand new set of Scriptures. Since God promised that His Words would endure forever (Isaiah 40:8), and since Jesus likewise guaranteed that His Word would never pass away (Matthew 24:35), Mormonism makes Jesus a liar and God a promise-breaker when it claims the Bible has been corrupted. Not only does biblical scripture and history prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Scripture accuracy has been preserved, the Book of Mormon itself claims that at least until the formation of the Catholic Church (in the 4th century), the Biblical text was preserved "in purity." All of these invalidate Joseph Smith's concocted version of so-called "Mormon Christianity" and the need for an alleged "restoration" of so many un-biblical beliefs and practices. This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, “Teaching Mormons from the Book of Mormon” You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Does the Book of Mormon claim Hebrew origins for the Native American Indians?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Does the Book of Mormon claim Hebrew origins for the Native American Indians? The Book of Mormon claims to contain the stories of a group of people, called the Lamanites which it states migrated from Israel to America in 600 B.C. Yet, DNA testing on the Native American Indians throughout America reveal an Asian origin for the Indians with no connection to Near Eastern Jewish genetics. To compensate for this discrepancy, the Gospel Topics Essay on LDS.org entitled, the “Book of Mormon and DNA Studies,” asserts: “The Book of Mormon itself, however, does not claim that the peoples it describes were either the predominant or the exclusive inhabitants of the lands they occupied.” Yet footnote 10 of the essay admits that from 1981 to 2006, “The introduction, which is not part of the text of the Book of Mormon, previously stated that the Lamanites were the 'principal ancestors of the American Indians.' ” So, while the Essay admits that the Introduction to the Book of Mormon stated the Jewish Lamanites were the “principal ancestors of the American Indians,” the LDS Church blatantly lies about the claims of the Book of Mormon when is states that these claims were only made in the Introduction text of the Book of Mormon. Note that 2 Nephi 1:8 in the text of the Book of Mormon continues to promote the idea that the Israelite Lamanites were the ONLY people in America when it states: “And behold, it is wisdom that this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations; for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance.” As such, the LDS Church's excuse for the DNA research disproving Hebrew origin assertions is shown to be a lie, twisting the facts to allow for other non-Jewish migrations to America in order to justify the lack of DNA evidence to support Book of Mormon claims. This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, “Book of Mormon Archaeology, Linguistics and DNA.” You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Did Joseph Smith Know Book of Mormon Stories Before He Translated the Plates?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTIONS FOR MORMONS: Did Joseph Smith Know the Book of Mormon Stories Before He Translated the Gold Plates? Latter-day Saints often point to the stories in the Book of Mormon as proof that Joseph Smith could not have been the author of this book, because they assert that it was impossible for a 14-year old boy to create all of these stories on his own. While we agree with Mormons that Joseph Smith could not have created the stories in the Book of Mormon all by himself, he did not have to create them all by scratch because these stories were already published in popular books of his age. Joseph Smith's own mother, Lucy Mack Smith, recounts how, as a boy in their home many years before he received the gold plates, Joseph Smith would often repeat and elaborate on these popular stories in such a way that it seemed "as if he had spent his whole life among them." So, while yet as a boy, Joseph Smith's own mother testifies to his ability to speak of these stories about the "ancient inhabitants of this continent... with as much ease, seemingly, as if he had spent his whole life among them" (History of Joseph Smith by His Mother Lucy Mack Smith, p. 83). Yet, at the time when Joseph Smith was growing up, retelling and recreating these stories in his home, the gold plates of the Book of Mormon had not yet been obtained by Joseph Smith. With such a vivid imagination, coupled with the evidence of popular stories, similar to the stories found in the Book of Mormon circulating at the time and in the region of Joseph Smith's childhood, is it any wonder critics allege that Joseph Smith plagiarized the stories in the Book of Mormon? This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, "The Proof of Plagiarism in the Book of Mormon". You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Was Joseph Smith a Prophet or a Fraud?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Was Joseph Smith a Prophet or a Fraud? The Bible warns that in the last days, false prophets would arise and deceive many people. How can we tell a true prophet from the false prophet? The Bible gives us the answer in Deuteronomy 18:20-22 "But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him." Not only did Joseph Smith lie and deceive his followers with so-called divine revelations that turned out to be false, he taught Mormons to believe in a false god, one who was once a "man like us" who had a father god before him. This is completely different from the God of the Bible who declares: "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me." (Isaiah 43:10) According to the Biblical test of a prophet, which category should we place Joseph Smith in - True Prophet of God, or a Fraud? Who will you trust - Joseph Smith or Jesus? The Bible warns that those who are led by false leaders will be "destroyed" (Isaiah 9:6). This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, "Deception is the Foundation of Mormonism". You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Is Jesus the Spirit Brother of Satan or is He God?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Is Jesus the Spirit Brother of Satan or is He God Himself? Mormonism teaches that in the spirit world, prior to human being born on this earth, Jesus Christ, Lucifer and all of us were born in a spirit world to God and one of his spirit wives. As such, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan and all of us. This is a far cry from Biblical Christianity that teaches that Jesus is God, the Creator of ALL things including Lucifer and his spirit brothers (the demons). Jesus is Lucifer's Creator, He is not his spirit brother. This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, "Is Jesus Christ, Your Savior or Brother?". You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Did Jesus Compete with Satan to Become Savior of the World?

Former Mormon Bishop Lee & Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Do you believe that Jesus and Lucifer (Satan) competed against each other for the position of Savior? LDS Church Doctrine teaches that Jesus and Lucifer (a.k.a Satan) are literal spirit brothers born in a spirit world to an exalted mother and father, who Mormons call God the Father and Heavenly Mother. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that Jesus and Satan jockeyed for the position of Redeemer with Lucifer presenting a plan to save the world after Jesus presented his plan. According to Mormon Scripture, God chose Jesus' plan over Lucifer's plan, so Lucifer became angry and fell from heaven, taking 1/3 of the spirit sons with him to become Satan and his demons. This teaching is completely contrary to Christian doctrine and Biblical teaching which teaches that Jesus is God who created all things, including Satan (John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:15-19). Satan is not Jesus' spirit brother, nor did Satan fall for trying to become "Savior of the world." Rather, the Bible teaches that Satan fell for trying to exalt himself to become "like" God (Isaiah 14:12-14), which is the very lie Satan told Eve, when she ate the forbidden fruit to become "as gods" (Genesis 3:5). This lie of Satan is continually promoted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Lorenzo Snow couplet "“As man now is, God once was: “As God now is, man may be." This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, "Jesus, Not Joseph, is the Reason for the Season". You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Do Your Non Mormon Friends Know More Mormonism Than You?

Mainstream Mormonism's Questions for Mormons • Ex-Mormon Bishop Lee Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Do your friends outside the Mormon Church know more Mormonism than you? Former Mormon Bishop Lee Baker describes what his non-Mormon friends thought of him when he was Mormon for 32 years. This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, "Mormonism – The Chameleon of Christianity." Listen to the program at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Does the Book of Mormon Teach Mormon Doctrine?

Mainstream Mormonism's Questions for Mormons • Former Mormon Bishop Lee Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Does the Book of Mormon Teach Mormon Doctrine? Mormons often challenge potential converts to the Mormon Church to "pray" and "read" the Book of Mormon in order to gain a testimony of it's truthfulness. Yet, the Book of Mormon is not a valid test for the doctrine of the Mormon Church because its teachings go against the foundational teachings of Mormonism. This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, "The Mormon Church openly opposes the Book of Mormon." You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

Is the Book of Mormon Racist?

Mainstream Mormonism's Questions for Mormons • Ex-Mormon Bishop Lee and Kathy Baker

QUESTION FOR MORMONS: Is the Book of Mormon Racist? Is Black Skin a "Curse" from God in Mormonism? Mormons often challenge potential converts to the Mormon Church to "pray" and "read" the Book of Mormon in order to gain a testimony of it's truthfulness. Yet, the Book of Mormon is one of the most racist "Scriptures" of Mormonism, teaching that Black Skin is a curse from God for wickedness and white skin for righteousness. This teaching is opposed to the God of the Bible who shows no favoritism and regards all people, both black and white as equal. This video is taken from the Mainstream Mormonism Radio Program entitled, "Race in the Mormon Church – Past Mormon Leaders told “Nigger” Jokes at Conference." You can listen to this show at LeeBaker.4Mormon.org.

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